Monday, April 02, 2007

On the Radio

I heard this on the radio on Friday and found it interesting. Apparently Al Gore has an environmentally unfriendly house. What I found interesting was how many people called in to defend the house.

7 comments:

Devon said...

Yes, and Arianna Huffington flies a private jet all around which pollutes and Hillary Clinton made a million bucks in some land deal 15 years ago. We've heard it before. It's what the conservatives are best at isn't it? I mean, I guess I can't really blame them. It's worked for 12 years when they had the most unfriendly-towards-the-middle-class stances maybe in the history of this country. And still people voted for them... against their best interests.

That's all you need to offer people with a 75 IQ and an attention span of 4.5 seconds apparently. Maybe you should also mention how that 20x the average electricity use is from renewable energy.

yes, 20 times the average usage seems pretty fucking rediculous to me. I mean, after all, Al Gore is just a rich fuck who doesn't have much in common with average people so that would stand to reason. But using misleading facts to portray him as environmentally un-friendly and Bush as a champion clean energy is a crock of shit, if you ask me.

Unknown said...

So you are displeased with the radio clip then?

Anonymous said...

Actually what the green power really means is that Al Gore pays extra money to support green friendly energy sources.

He uses the same power grid as everyone else, so he does not use green energy, he only pays a surcharge to support green energy. What he should be doing is either cutting back on how much power he uses, or investing in lower power technologies on his estate to offset his power demand.

Just my two cents.

Pat

Anonymous said...

Environmentalism is a religion to people like Devon, while it serves as a platform for Al Gore to remain somewhat relevant politically...Gore is a one trick pony, yet he continually ducks every opportunity to debate 'global warming' because he's nothing but a talking head. He'll get taken apart in a debate with a real climate expert and he knows it...

And where did Scott say anything about Bush? And that renewable energy you are touting is the real crock of shit...but you continue to do what Gore says and not what he does Devon, wouldn't want you to actually think for yourself or anything dangerous like that...

Devon said...

DDX12000

First, it's pretty obvious you haven't the foggiest clue what the fuck you're talking about. It is mearly a personal attack to call environmentalism a religion. You're going to need to explain that. If you'd bother to crack open a dictionary you'd know that it doesn't fit into the definition. Yes, I know it'll be difficult to do that, it won't have Bill O'Reilly in a sporty windbreaker on the cover.

Al Gore has worked on the issue of global warming for something like 20 years, maybe longer. He finds it important, as do I, as do a majority of informed people. So if that's a one trick pony then fine, it's a pretty important trick.

But explain this to me professor, how is renewable energy is a crock of shit? It seems perhaps you don't understand the concept? I'll be happy to explain if you'd like. You just raise your cute little hand.

It is now abundantly clear that A) Global warming is happening. and B) We are the cause of most of it.

You can check here and here if you don't believe me. There are lots of other places to look too but the IPCC report is pretty compelling, recent stuff. (And no, you won't find this stuff on Newsmax either, so don't bother.)

I know, I know. A true believer such as yourself won't be persuaded by mere scientific facts, but at least we're reading now aren't we. Feels good right?

But this post was about diverting attention from Al Gore's message to Al Gore's personal life wasn't it? So let's get back on that. Truth is, Al Gore uses way too much fucking energy if he's using that much, green or not. His house is probably 20 times as big as the national average but that doesn't matter much. The point is he should now that right wing think tanks like the TCPR have to spend their time demonizing the messenger because they know the message rings true.

Anonymous said...

Hey Devon, if your buddy Al has 'worked over 20 years' on so-called global warming, why did he do sweet fuck all about it when he was Vice President? Aside from the ludicrous Kyoto Treaty (which exempted China and India from capping carbon emissions, two countries that will use more energy than the U.S. within a couple of years) that was crushed in the Senate (a 96-0 vote against ratification)Al Gore has NOTHING to show for his tireless efforts...maybe inventing the internet diverted his attention?

Again, Al Gore is using global warming to remain relevant, make some cash, and to feel better about himself for being Al Gore. I point to his unwillingness to actually debate the issue with serious climatoligists as evidence that when pressed, he has no clue what he is talking about....

Now, as far as my view on global warming goes - it may be happening, it may not - but it is the height of human arrogance to believe that mankind can alter/impact weather in a significant manner. Does that mean I believe we should be irresponsible? Not at all...I'm all for clean/renewable energy, but not at the expense of the free market - and it will be the market that will be the guiding force to finding alt energy types, not government regulations and treaties not worth the paper they are printed on.

The earth's climate is impacted far more severely by sun activity (remember the ozone layer holes? Wonder why they are hardly mentioned anymore? It's because it was determined the more active the sun, the 'thicker' the ozone layer....the sun has been active over the last decade, so the ozone issue that was going to kill us all has been addressed...and not because we banned lighter fluids and hairspray with flourocarbons) and ocean temps.

North America was once covered in ice, it isn't anymore....is that because wooly mammoths were actually coal burning SUVs? No, it is because climate change on earth happens, sometimes slowly, sometimes rapidly - but it happens. For Al Gore to believe we can stop the earth's climate from altering, he's insane - again, that doesn't mean we should dump crude in the oceans or raw sewage in rivers, but the hysterics of the global warming bunch need to be tempered....

Devon said...

Oh good lord... don't tell me... you're a fucking libertarian aren't you! That's just precious.

Quick, I think Boortz is on soon.

Look... I'll say this again. You're making it very clear that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to this subject. "North America was once covered in ice, it isn't anymore... because climate change on earth happens, sometimes slowly, sometimes rapidly - but it happens."

Good job, this is true. But if you had read anything about the actual science of climate change you'd know that this does not account for the kinds of increases in temperature we are seeing now. This is an old argument that is no longer valid and if you'd read ANYTHING about this you might know that.

So, seeing as how you refuse to even educate yourself about this topic and (in my estimation) are only looking at this issue from a political stand point, it's useless to give you anymore time. There are plenty of other people who are waking up to this reality, and Al Gore has had a lot to do with that.

If you actually want to learn about it you can. It's difficult to wade through the crap (on both sides of the issue. But there is some very solid science behind An Inconveinient Truth and obviously the IPCC report... oh and this which was in the NY Times today.

I know, liberal paper right? Maybe Drudge will have something on it though.

ps
Since it seems like you haven't watched (at least while paying attention) the movie in question, you can for free HERE. It's in pieces but I'm sure a smart person such as yourself can manage.